Have you ever been betrayed while outsourcing works?

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September 15, 2017, 5:57 pm

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I've been in the online business for a couple of months now and I must say that there are things that I have learnt from working with others that have taught me a great lesson in the online business. One major lesson I have learnt relates to outsourcing works gotten from my clients to other freelancers. I have been working with my friend from Norway and we do share work between each other especially when one of us ain't getting the works at a particular time.

It has been a good relationship between us until there was a period he said he was going on a break to rest his head and relax his body and mind and that was when I had to start working with a new partner from Morroco. The relationship was moving quite well and we always in some cases chat with our clients to let them know that we work as partners. At a certain point, my biggest client from the US cut communication with me and even as hard as I try to know why I was not getting work from him, it all fell on deaf ears.

I never knew that my new outsourcing partner has gone at my back to speak ill of me that I always give his works to my friends in Nigeria to do and that got him annoyed, yet he did not tell. It was when they had issues that the US client opened up to me about everything that happened and in as much as I felt hurt, I continued working for him. Have you ever had someone betray you like this? What are the signs that make you trust the freelancers you outsource work to? For I learnt a big lesson from that incident.

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TommyCarey

TommyCarey

Whenever I'm partnering up with someone, I will have a contract in place just so they don't try to do this. If you're just doing a verbal handshake agreement between 2 parties, there's nothing that will legally bond you to the other person and the company.

I have multiple partners across my networks of websites, and each of them has signed an agreement which basically says "If you screw me over, you're done in this industry" lol. I try to only partner with people from the US simply because it would cost too much money trying to take legal action against a partner who isn't in the same country. I do have partners outside of the US, but I've been working with them for 10+ years and we've built plenty of trust between us.

Never rush into a partnership, try to pay someone to do the work and not have them as a part owner in the beginning. Over time you will get a feel for who someone is and if you should be partnering up, until then you should be paying them for work or just doing it yourself.

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Tronia

Tronia

This is actually the smartest comment I've read in a while. This is exactly what many beginners don't do and get burned. A contract is what ensures that you are protected. It is definitely worth doing because in the long run many partnerships end and one party takes the damage.

I'd highly recommend doing a simple contract even if you think that you don't need it. Be smart about what you're doing and think ahead. It is basically an extra layer of self-protection

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AmieBotella

AmieBotella

Absolutely true. I run an offline business way back and partnered on two different people. At the same time, being young and friends with these people, it never ended well for us. Soon the partner either envies or would want to own it all to himself. My take away from this is no matter how long your friendship or relationship has been and how deep, a contract should always put you in your proper places at ALL times. Even partnering with relatives, this is very essential. All verbal agreements are not deep over time and this'll just cause much more problems for you.

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vinaya

vinaya

I have been betrayed couple of times when I was outsourcing work. However, the betrayal did not cost me much money. I lost one of two conracts because of betrayals, however, these contracts were poorly paid. I was also cheated with low quality work or work that was cipied from other sources. Thanfully, my betrayal did not make much difference to me because economically it did not matter much.

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augusta

augusta

People can be funny anytime it not just about outsourcing, it shows the very nature of humans trying to outsmart one another, I have learned mine a hard way and I apply the lesson in every areas of my life.

Always guard where your bread is buttered along of person can get bread off your mouth and replace it with stones without blinking.Always put the necessary agreement on ground to avoid this.

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wiseagent

wiseagent

No, this has never happened to me (and I hope it never happens), but I can imagine how bad this situation can be really bad because this has already happened to some of my friends. Although it didn't represent major problems, the headache existed for them.

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Baburra

Baburra

Thankfully, this has never happened to me. However, I don't think this is the type of thing that happens exclusively in outsourcing as I hear it all the time in business dealings and partnerships, and I do hear a lot of these types of stories because a lot of my friends like to tell them to me. I try to be as careful as possible when dealing with people, especially online, and I only ever give out information when necessary because I know that ultimately I will have to look out for my own business and that a lot of people out there have no trouble screwing over other people for their own gain.

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overcast

overcast

I always stay with the client till the end. But the clients usually bail out on me. So it can be tiresome. And I have realized that outsourcing is something harder. And people are not really sure about how to manage things. I mean outsourcing is not that easy. And if you are going to spend time trying to establish yourself with the outsourcing jobs then work needs to be properly done as well.

I think both the worker and the client needs to be something good. I have learned that outsourcing requires more patience from the worker more.

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Henrywrites

Henrywrites

I just started out in the world of freelancing a few weeks ago and have not experienced such an issue. However, there is need to always get contracts in place that would be binding both you and the person you're giving work to so that if anything comes up in the future, you can know how to handle it. I don't have maximum trust for anyone in this world, so if in the future, I enter into such [artnership, I will try to be careful.

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DarthHazard

DarthHazard

It has never happened to me because I don't really outsource any of my work. I don't see the point of taking on a project where I cannot do something and have to get someone else to do it. But if I did, I would make sure that the person working for me has no connection to the person I am working for. The best thing to do is to just pretend like the work they are doing is for you and not for someone else. That can help avoid any problems and avoid betrayals

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overcast

overcast

The outsourcing is some of the thing that is being done only when the project is big. And the project is broken down into modules. And that's where it has to be done. For example if you are developer then you can't be doing the social media work. And you can't do two things at a same time. And for this you have to focus on the results. You can see that outsourcing and delegating the work is a necessity. You have to take some hits from people who betray on price and project and stuff. But that's how it works. You have to be patient with delegating things.

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JoeMilford

JoeMilford

I have so far been lucky in this freelancing arena not to have been betrayed or doublecrossed, but I can totally see how easy it would be, after reading this post, for something like this to happen to any of us. I think that the idea of the contract is an especially intelligent and sound idea for any of us. I have contracts with the people I regularly work with in publishing and other writing gigs, so if someone did do something unsavory, he or she would be held accountable for his or her actions. I think this is just how business is no matter what business we are in. People are totally unpredictable.

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Authord

Authord

Hahaha, this sounds funny to me, humans are very cruel, so be careful when dealing with one. Although it's not actually feasible to outrun a betrayal in partnership, because even Jesus himself selected a Judas along with his twelve disciples, who ended up betraying him.
So what I'm saying is that when dealing with a partnership in terms of outsourcing works or sharing works between the both of you, let an agreement be reached and don't let it go into friendship, because if it does, I fear that's when the plank energy will start drawing in, hence the betrayal.

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overcast

overcast

It's very common on fiverr, upwork and freelancer. So it's not something funny. Though I understand how funny that can be. If we see this happening on regular basis. This can be really sad incident to be honest.

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Pixie06

Pixie06

I have not really had this problem but my friend had an unpleasant experience. He decided to hire someone to write some articles for his site. He did a preliminary test with the writer before hiring him. My friend was largely disappointed with the low quality articles of the writer. There are some risks of hiring someone.

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jaymish2

jaymish2

I'm sorry for what happened to you but this is life. Anytime you are working with human beings always remember that there is a chance that they can betray you. In your case, it's worse as he was probably thinking that you were eating into his profit. My motto in life from a lesson I learned the hard way is to always do for yourself. Understand that the only person you can rely upon is you. Try as hard as you can to build your business in such a way that you are in control. Never allow anyone else to keep in touch with your client. If you're doing the same type of work you have to remember that you are in competition.

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Jeane

Jeane

I haven't been betrayed by a writing partner yet but I've had something like that happen on a site called iwriter. They post writing jobs, you "claim" one, complete and submit an article and wait for the client to decide whether they accept the article submitted or not. If this person doesn't want to pay for your writing all they'll do is change the title of the writing job + details about the job and then they'll claim that you didn't deliver what they were seeking.

It's rather disgusting but it's something that could happen to anyone. So take a scapshot of any writing project you are about to apply for (on any freelancer site) so in case, complications arise, you'll have the evidence you need to prove that the client is someone who shouldn't be trusted.

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Corzhens

Corzhens

I can’t say anything to this topic because I only have several contracts of work and the client is very good although the last one did not push through because the down payment was not deposited so I didn’t start the work and that was the last of our communication. It is difficult to transact in the online world if you are not well versed with clients because there is a danger of being scammed.

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